27, 2004 – Deem whoever you want a
terrorist and round them up. Lock
them up without having to prove they even did anything for as long
as you feel like without letting them talk to a lawyer or even their
own family. Send them
off to camps.
then, forget even the most basic human rights and morality and
flat-out torture these “suspects.”
Bush/Limbaughians have spoken.
According to a just released ABC News poll
“most Republicans, 55 percent, say physical abuse is acceptable
this number is not just Bush-brand Republicans but all Republicans,
including moderates. When you just pull out the pro-war Bushies, it gets even
Americans who strongly feel the war was worth fighting, half say
torture is acceptable…”
say torture is acceptable. Not
just abuse – such as sleep depravation, hooding, noise-bombing,
punching, kicking, and sexually humiliating.
No, that was what was considered only “abuse” in this
half of pro-war, Bush/Limbaugh-brand Americans say all-out
“torture is acceptable.”
who argue against comparisons between the current administration and
its supporters and 1930’s Nazi Germany make the case that our
present government may be rolling over constitutional rights and
launching offensive wars, but they would never become as horribly
cruel and amoral as the Nazi’s did.
wasn’t enough when our President made comments that led to death
threats against three innocent American women for merely criticizing
his policies. Remember
the Dixie Chicks?
wasn’t enough when he passed an act that said he can discard all
constitutional protections at his whim, merely by calling someone a
it wasn’t even enough when he set up camps, of course just outside
the country, as Hitler did in Poland, to keep the true nastiness
none of these direct parallels were enough.
Democrats – and Independents – are not innocent either.
to the poll, 40 percent of Independents think “torture is
acceptable,” and 27 percent of Democrats “agree.”
the poll says 35 percent of Americans think torture is acceptable.
One out of three of us.
About ¼ of Democrats, 4 in 10 Independents, and 4 in 10
Republicans. Of the
Bush-brand among us – the pro-war types – half say torture is
the good news side, 2/3 of Americans deem abuse unacceptable in all
cases, including 75% of Democrats.
And majorities of Independents and Republicans (when
moderate, non-Bushie type Republicans are included) oppose torture.
come on folks. 50
percent of Bush-brand, pro-war Americans think not just some abuse
– such as hooding, kicking, punching, sleep-depriving – but flat
out torture is just fine with them?
And not much less than half of Independents and Republicans
are fine with it as well?
no, it doesn’t really matter who we are talking about getting
tortured or what they were or weren’t involved in.
ABC reports, “…views on torture and physical abuse are virtually
identical whether the targets are suspected terrorists, or suspects
in recent attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
So there you have that:
not only don’t they have to be known terrorists, they
don’t have to even be suspected terrorists for these people to be
okay with torturing them. As
long as someone somewhere feels like suspecting someone of
something, half of Bushies say it is okay to torture them.
Independents, we at The Moderate Independent welcome a variety of
views and readers. We welcome Conservative Independents, Liberal Independents,
Democrats, Republicans, Greens, people of any beliefs or partisan
persuasion who are looking of news coverage that puts truth and what
is best for America above all else.
we absolutely do not welcome anyone of any persuasion who believes
torture is acceptable. You inhuman, barbarian asses are no better than the terrorist
scum we are fighting. You
are not Americans but amoralist anarchists who don’t believe in
even the most basic of human rights or rule of law.
And as such, you are lowest scum on the face of the earth and
deserve to be given the treatment you condone for use on others of
are Osama, you are Saddam, you are the Nazis.
useful human being would ever condone torture of anyone for any
you claim the high road so you can take the low road.
claim to be good Christians and then act without even the least bit
of human dignity of morality. Jesus
offered up the other cheek, you condone punching that cheek while
the man is naked, wearing a hood, and being force to masturbate in
front of growling dogs.
claim to hate terrorists because they don’t operate by basic,
accepted rules of war and human rights, and then say you are just
fine doing the same.
claim to be the ones who can define and dictate American values and
family values, and then openly state that what you really embrace
are terrorist values, anarchist values, and inhuman torture values.
knew the torture we are starting to find out about was occurring and
you were glad for it – we told our readers that before, and now it
is seen confirmed in this poll.
ABC News reports all of this without alarm, we at M/I call each and
every one of you out as the un-American, inhuman, Nazi-like scum as
you are. And our ranks
– the 2/3 of us who have basic human values, the mix of us from
all political persuasions and parties who know torture is never
acceptable – are here banded together and will make sure you lowly
trash will no longer have a hold on the government of the greatest,
most moral nation ever to grace the face of the earth.
torture-condoning scum, your days are numbered, as we Americans join
together to restore our nation’s good name a remove from power
those who don’t believe in law, morality, and basic American